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Baker, Ens Phillip

Baker, Ens Phillip

Male 1790 - 1845  (55 years)   Has 4 ancestors and 21 descendants in this family tree.


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  • Name Baker, Phillip
    Prefix Ens
    Birth 1784/1790  Rowan Co, NC Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male
    _TAG Military Service 
    _UID 137F898DD2DAD4118AC4444553540000B744 
    Death 1845  Cherokee Co, NC Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I38440  Marty and Karla Grant
    Last Modified 9 Dec 2025

    Father Baker, Cpt Jacob,   b. 1760/1765   d. 1845/1850, Cherokee Co, NC Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 85 years)
    Mother ?,   b. 1765/1770   d. 1840/1850, Cherokee Co, NC Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 80 years)
    Marriage Bef 1790  Rowan Co, NC Find all individuals with events at this location 
    _UID 4CDA79098822384A8474F66C7D151D7D5A4F 
    Notes 
    • Marriage

      No marriage record has been found for Jacob Baker, nor any indication of his wife's given name or surname. Based on their suspected children's ages, they must have married in the early to mid 1780's, probably in Rowan Co., NC.

      Children

      No record has been found proving who Jacob Baker's children were. Census analysis shows several children. It is probable that Phillip Baker (1780/1790) is one of them. The proof of that is very thin, but Phillip did live in the same part of Ashe County as Jacob Baker. That is really the only connection.

      Mary Margaret Baker (1790) is probably Jacob's daughter as well. First he did have a daughter her age. She was born in Rowan County at the time he was there. She married in Ashe Co., NC when he was there, and she lived on Beaver Creek same as Jacob. All circumstantial evidence, but quite compelling.

      No evidence has been found linking any other probable children to Jacob Baker. As noted census records show there were others, but who were they?
    Family ID F1980  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Hardin, Elizabeth,   b. 1799/1800, Ashe Co, NC Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Aft 1850, Cherokee Co, NC Find all individuals with events at this location (Age > 51 years)
    Marriage Bef 1822  Ashe Co, NC Find all individuals with events at this location 
    _UID 47335DD0F2940A44BE1ED15241161DB5A306 
    Notes 
    • Marriage

      No marriage record has been found for Phillip Baker and Elizabeth Hardin, though they probably married between 1820 and ca 1822 in Ashe Co., NC. Their marriage is proven by her father's Will dated 1846 Ashe Co., NC.

      Children

      They seem to have only two children, an unidentified daughter, and a son Jacob J. Baker.
    Children 
     1. Baker, Jacob J,   b. 1821/1822, Ashe Co, NC Find all individuals with events at this locationd. May 1860, Cherokee Co, NC Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 38 years)
     2. Baker, Caroline,   b. 1825/1830, Ashe Co, NC Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Aft 1849, Cherokee Co, NC Find all individuals with events at this location (Age > 20 years)
    Family ID F15006  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 21 Aug 2026

  • Notes 
    • !NOTES:Marty Grant's 5th Great Grand Uncle.;


      !WAR OF 1812:
      Philip Baker, Ensign
      Eigth Regiment, Fifth Company, Detached from the Ashe Regiment;


      !WITNESS-DEED: 4 Mar 1833 Ashe Co., NC Deed Book V, p. 321
      Jacob Baker to Christian Burket, both of Ashe, for $100,
      100a
      S: Jacob Baker
      Wit: Phillip Baker
      Geo Parsons


      !WITNESS-DEED: 4 Mar 1833 Ashe Co., NC Deed Book V, p. 326
      Jacob Baker to Christian Burket, both of Ashe, for $32
      32a
      S: Jacob Baker
      Wit: Phillip Baker
      Geo Parsons


      !DEED:14 Jul 1849 Cherokee Co., NC Deed Book A, p. 180
      We, Elizabeth Baker, widow and relict of Philip Baker decd,
      Jacob J. Baker and Caroline Baker,
      Heirs of said Philip, decd, articles of agreement.
      Philip died in 1845 possesse of considerable property ...
      S: Elizabeth Baker, Jacob Baker, Caroline Baker.
      Wit: R. B. Harper, Samuel Henry.


      !NOTES:Phillip Baker was born ca 1780/90 per his age on the 1830 and 1840 census. If he is a son of Jacob Baker, as supposed, then he was probably born in Rowan County on or near Grants Creek.

      No direct evidence has been found that proves Phillip is a son of Jacob Baker, but various bits of circumstantial evidence make it seem likely. Someone Phillip's age was with Jacob Baker for the 1790, 1800 and 1810 census. Another bit of evidence is that they both seem to live in the Beaver Creek area of Ashe Co., NC. Phillip named his oldest son "Jacob" perhaps after his father. None of this is solid proof that Jacob is his father but it all adds up and points that way. Some solid evidence would be helpful though.

      Phillip would have been under 10 by the time of the 1790 census. Jacob Baker had two apparent sons under 16 with him in 1790 Rowan County. One of them could be Phillip.

      Phillip would have been between 10 and 20 for the 1800 census. Jacob had two boys aged 10-15 with him then in Rowan County. One of them might be Phillip.

      Phillip Baker would have been in his 20's by the 1810 census. He was old enough to be a head of household but wasn't listed as such so he was probably still with his parents. Jacob Baker was listed in Wilkes county for this census. In his household Jacob had one male age 26-44 (born ca 1765-1784) and two age 16-25 (born ca 1784-94). One of those could be Phillip.

      Phillip Baker served in the War of 1812 as an Ensign in the 2nd Company, 5th NC Militia (Ashe County, NC). (Per Jim Weaver's website). Perhaps his military record contains useful information.

      Phillip Baker wasn't listed on the 1820 census, nor did Jacob Baker have anyone Phillip's age residing with him then. He may have been living with another family as a hired laborer or something like that.

      Phillip Baker married Elizabeth Hardin sometime prior to ca 1822 in Ashe Co, NC. She is a daughter of Henry Hardin and Catherine (---) as proven by Henry's Will of 1846 in Ashe Co., NC.

      Phillip Baker was listed on the 1830 census in Ashe Co, NC two pages from Jacob Baker, some of his neighbors were known to be in the Beaver Creek area, same as Jacob Baker. They were next door to Elizabeth's parents.

      !CENSUS:1830 Ashe Co, NC pg 4 Philip Baker 0100001000000-1000010000000
      * Analysis:
      * 1 male 40-49 (1780/1790)=Phillip Baker (1780/90)
      * 1 male 5-9 (1820/1825)=Jacob J. Baker (c1822) son
      * 1 female 30-39 (1790/1800)=Elizabeth Hardin Baker (c1800) wife
      * 1 female 0-4 (1825/1830)=Unknown daughter

      Sometime prior to 1840 Phillip Baker and family moved to Cherokee Co, NC. He was listed there on the 1840 census. He had an older man and woman with him who's ages are a perfect match for Jacob Baker and his wife, so it is possible they went to Cherokee Co, NC with Phillip. It isn't Elizabeth's parents for they were still in Ashe Co., NC and listed there on the 1840 census.

      !CENSUS:1840 Cherokee Co, NC pg 232 Philip Baker 0010000101000-0010001001000
      * Analysis:
      * 1 male 70-79 (1760/1770)=Unknown (possibly Jacob Baker (1760/65) his father)
      * 1 male 50-59 (1780/1790)=Phillip Baker (1780/90)
      * 1 male 10-14 (1825/1830)=Jacob J. Baker (c1822) son
      * 1 female 70-79 (1760/1770)=Unknown (possibly Mrs. Baker (1765/70) mother)
      * 1 female 40-49 (1790/1800)=Elizabeth Hardin Baker (c1800) wife
      * 1 female 10-14 (1825/1830)=Unknown daughter

      Phillip Baker died sometime prior to 1850 in Cherokee Co, NC.


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